Processador [ARM] Samsung Exynos para Laptops

[night_sign]

No máximo até 8 de Fevereiro têm de apresentar, ou dia 8 na apresentação do S22 falam nele e deixa de ser algo isolado.

Edit:

Samsung confirms Exynos 2200 launch delay, says chipset has no issues

“We are planning to unveil the new application processor at the time of launching a new Samsung smartphone,” an official for Samsung Electronics was quoted as saying, adding that “There are no problems with the AP’s production and performance.”

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Afinal oficialmente o GPU é mesmo o Xclipse, mas basicamente foi a única coisa que anunciaram em relação ao GPU

Samsung Introduces Game Changing Exynos 2200 Processor With Xclipse GPU Powered By AMD RDNA 2 Architecture​

The Xclipse GPU is a one-of-a-kind hybrid graphic processor that is positioned between the console and the mobile graphic processor. Xclipse is the combination of ‘X’ that represents Exynos, and the word ‘eclipse’. Like an eclipse, the Xclipse GPU will bring an end to the old era of mobile gaming and mark the start of an exciting new chapter.

With the high-performance AMD RDNA 2 architecture as its backbone, the Xclipse inherits advanced graphic features such as hardware accelerated ray tracing (RT) and variable rate shading (VRS) that were previously only available on PCs, laptops and consoles.

The octa-core CPU of Exynos 2200 is designed in a tri-cluster structure made up of a single powerful Arm Cortex®-X2 flagship-core, three performance and efficiency balanced Cortex-A710 big-cores and four power-efficient Cortex-A510 little-cores.

https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...tecture?utm_source=mainkv&utm_medium=internal

Exynos 2200: Playtime is over | Samsung​

 

[night_sign]

Frequências zero. Só devem vir no final do ano para Fold 4.

 

[muddymind]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1483442533342810116

Parece que a performance deixa mesmo a desejar comparativamente à concorrência.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Bom, na pior das hipóteses têm um substituto para o Exynos V9

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Samsung Xclipse 920 (AMD RDNA2) GPU is up to 25% faster than Adreno 730 in Vulkan test​

This month started with rumors about next-gen Samsung’s chip encountering thermal throttling issues and as a result a necessity to substantially downclock the processor. Those rumors are yet to be confirmed because Samsung has not publicly confirmed the frequencies.

The new Exynos chip is listed with a clock speed of 555 MHz, which is way lower than it should be, and unlikely to be the correct frequency. The Xclipse 920 GPU is recognized as GFX1040 GPU, which confirms it is part of the AMD RDNA2 product family.

The graphics are powered by Xclipse 920 GPU which is based on AMD RDNA2 graphics IP. The exact specs are not known but the rumors have suggested it might be equipped with 6 Compute Units, which gives 384 Stream Processors.

in OpenCL benchmarks the RDNA2 GPU scores up to 9143 points, which is up to 50.7% higher than the best score listed by Spandragon Gen1 with Adreno 730 GPU in Oneplus 10 PRO (vs 6050 points). In more gaming-related graphics API, Vulkan, Samsung processor is up to 25.5% faster than Qualcomm’s (9143 vs to 7285).

https://videocardz.com/newz/samsung...p-to-25-faster-than-adreno-730-in-vulkan-test

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Novidades?
ZERO!

New Samsung Galaxy S22 and S22+ Deliver Revolutionary Camera Experiences, Day and Night​

https://news.samsung.com/us/new-sam...r-revolutionary-camera-experiences-day-night/

Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra offers the Ultimate and Most Premium S Series Experience Yet​

https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung...ltimate-most-premium-s-series-experience-yet/

Big, Bold and Versatile: Introducing Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Series​

https://news.samsung.com/us/galaxy-tab8-unpacked/


O resumo:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491445960060579842

 

[muddymind]

Repara, era para ter evento próprio que foi cancelado sem qualquer aviso.

Foi prometido que ia ser apresentado no evento unpacked e... grilos.

Ainda resta alguma dúvida que a Samsung está envergonhada do fail que é o exynos 2200?

EDIT: Gostei especialmente desta parte:

"all of this is supported by our most powerful chipset in the galaxy tab"

EDIT:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491454363923279873

 

[Walderstorn]

Nada de especial...

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Bom tecnicamente o "our most powerful" processor é verdade então...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1491469491204730881

Sobre o iGPU é que está um parto difícil.

 

[Nemesis11]

In the UL Benchmarks 3DMark Wildlife test, the Exynos 2200 posted a score of 6684 points, compared to 9548 points by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (a difference of 42 percent). What's even more interesting, is that the Exynos 2200 is barely 7 percent faster than the previous-gen Exynos 2100 (Arm Mali GPU) powering the S21 Ultra, which scored 6256 points. The story repeats with the GFXBench "Manhattan" off-screen render benchmark. Here, the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 is 30 percent faster than the Exynos 2200, which performs on-par with the Exynos 2100. Find a plethora of other results in the complete review comparing the two flavors of the S22 Ultra.

Özüağ predicts that Samsung could be working on a major software update that could improve or normalize performance between the two phone types. and that the Exynos 2200 is in need of significant software-level optimization. Özüağ also offers valuable insights into a possible cause the RDNA2-based Xclipse 920 is underwhelming. The iGPU could be starved for engine clocks, or we think possibly even memory bandwidth. Engine clocks play a decisive role in the performance of RDNA2-based discrete GPUs. AMD also spent significant engineering capital on lubricating the memory sub-system with the on-die Infinity Cache memory that operates at bandwidths typically 3-4 times that of the GDDR6 memory. The extremely tight power budget and Samsung 4 nm node could be impacting the iGPU's ability to sustain high engine clocks. We'll keep track on this story, as it marks AMD's second rodeo with smartphone graphics since the ATI Imageon days (over 14 years ago).

https://www.techpowerup.com/292025/...snapdragon-8-gen1-both-power-galaxy-s22-ultra

Outch

 

[LeonHeart]

https://www.techpowerup.com/292025/...snapdragon-8-gen1-both-power-galaxy-s22-ultra

Outch

Não percebo este post, já se sabe que existem problemas no software e a samsung ja disse ha varios dias atrás que falta receber o day 1 patch...Só se pode comparar as coisas depois dos patchs

 

[night_sign]

Sim ainda vai receber patch, todos sabemos o atraso do Exynos e o vai não vai.

 

[LeonHeart]

print do meu e sem day 1 patch. Ve se logo que os resultados dessa review foram manipulados

"In the UL Benchmarks 3DMark Wildlife test, the Exynos 2200 posted a score of 6684 points, compared to 9548 points by the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 (a difference of 42 percent). What's even more interesting, is that the Exynos 2200 is barely 7 percent faster than the previous-gen Exynos 2100 (Arm Mali GPU) powering the S21 Ultra, which scored 6256 points"

TOTALMENTE FALSO

 

[LeonHeart]

Fiz novo teste, sem day 1 patch:

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Ano e meio passou...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1632926166666592256

Samsung Electronics to Make Its Own CPUs for Smartphones

Samsung Electronics recently assembled an internal team to develop CPU cores. To lead the team, the company hired Rahul Tuli, a senior developer who orchestrated CPU development projects at AMD.

Samsung Electronics is also accelerating the development of next-generation APs, including chips for Galaxy smartphones. At the end of 2022, the System LSI Division at Samsung Electronics launched the AP Solution Development Team along with the Mobile Experience (MX) Division to optimize APs. The team is carrying out advanced research on next-generation chips. Under the tentative name of the Galaxy Chip, the team is planning to set up a dedicated chip more optimized than existing ones. Industry insiders are expecting the first version of the Galaxy Chip to come out in 2025. However, since Samsung Electronics has just begun the development of its own CPU cores, the first version of the Galaxy Chip is highly likely to have ARM CPUs.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=110460


Agora é que vai for...

 

[Nemesis11]

Moreover, potential risk is growing over Samsung Electronics’ alliance with ARM. This explains why Samsung Electronics has to expedite the development of its own CPUs.

A parte final da notícia é um bocado estranha, porque, por um lado, indica que os primeiros CPUs serão ARM, mas no fim do artigo, dão a entender que uma das razões do desenvolvimento destes CPUs, é os riscos que existem na dependência com a ARM.
Ora, desenvolver custom cores, se o ISA continuar a ser ARM, não reduz muito essa dependencia.
Estar a lançar primeiras versões usando o ISA ARM, para pouco depois mudar de ISA, também não me parece fazer grande sentido. Só há uma alternativa nesse campo, Risc-V e se o objectivo for ter CPUs Risc-V, não me parece fazer sentido desenvolver produtos ARM durante um par de anos.

Entretanto, a Samsung já veio desmentir essa notícia.

"A recent media report that Samsung has established an internal team dedicated to CPU core development is not true. Contrary to the news, we have long had multiple internal teams responsible for CPU development and optimization, while constantly recruiting global talents from relevant fields."

https://www.androidpolice.com/samsung-wants-pull-apple-custom-cpu-cores-report/

Tanto a notícia, como o desmentido, a uma distancia temporal tão grande, valem o que valem.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Isso só faria sentido no sentido de desenvolver um core da mesma forma que a Apple faria, não interessa a ISA a usar.

Mas que a noticia é estranha é.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Samsung Electronics and AMD Extend Strategic IP Licensing Agreement To Bring AMD Radeon™ Graphics to Future Mobile Platforms​

Samsung Electronics, a world leader in advanced semiconductor technology, and AMD (NASDAQ: AMD) today announced they have signed a multi-year agreement extension to bring multiple generations of high-performance, ultra-low-power AMD Radeon graphics solutions to an expanded portfolio of Samsung Exynos SoCs. Through the licensing extension, Samsung will bring console-level graphics quality and optimized power consumption to more mobile devices, offering an incredibly immersive and long-lasting gaming experience.

https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...md-radeon-graphics-to-future-mobile-platforms


A verdade é que o Exynos 2300 está algures entre o "M.I.A" ou "D.O.A", entretanto os rumores apontam para o 2400 sair mais para o final do ano.

 

[Dark Kaeser]

Bom, na pior das hipóteses têm um substituto para o Exynos V9

Também não era assim tão difícil....


Ready for the next-generation in-vehicle infotainment?

With upgraded CPU, graphics and AI performance, Exynos Auto V920 delivers an intelligent and pleasant driving experience. Meet Samsung’s premium automotive processor for infotainment system.

Xclipse GPU for rich visual experiences​

Cars now offer all-round entertainment experience with rich graphical capabilities. Equipped with the Xclipse GPU built on AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture, the Exynos Auto V920 provides an immersive graphic experience on multiple, up to six, high-resolution displays. Enjoy highly interactive graphical user interface and smooth game play in your vehicle.

https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/processor/automotive-processor/exynos-auto-v920/

No anúncio há uns 15 dias ficava a faltar a confirmação em relação ao GPU, agora está desfeita, primeiro cliente a Hyundai (provavelmente o grupo), e fica a dúvida se irá ser OEM Samsung ou recorrer a uma subsidiária (de recordar que a Samsung é a actual proprietária da Harman).

Samsung’s Exynos Auto V920 To Power Hyundai Motor’s Next-Generation In-Vehicle Infotainment Systems​

https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...xt-generation-in-vehicle-infotainment-systems