Que cena linda. Microsoft está realmente a esmerar-se. Pena que as ideias mais utópicas não sejam postas à prova - mas é como eles dizem... havemos de as ver qualquer dia."We actually considered at one time not having folders," Microsoft lead product manager Greg Sullivan told me during a recent briefing. "It was all going to be virtualized storage with search queries and so on. We would just completely abstract the file organization stuff from the physical folders and disk structure. But that was too much of a leap over the chasm, too confusing for users. But what we have now will probably evolve over time as well."
Sinceramente, "what a load of ****". E eu sou fácil de convencer!Eletronic_boy disse:Penso que é do vosso interesse...
http://www.msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=15592
Nemesis11 disse:Se é feature complete, devia-se chamar RC. Espero que não seja.
Controlo outbound na firewall é uma boa novidade.
Controlo sobre devices também é bastante bom para empresas.
Tem mais umas coisas interessantes.
http://www.activewin.com/screenshots/vista/5270/
É uma questão de gostos, mas acho aqueles screenshots horriveis. Ainda estou com esperança que a MS altere o gui, tanto a nivel de modo de funcionamento, como em termos de beleza (que é sempre discutivel).
Gostava de ver isto em video. Talvez mude de opinião.
By the end of December, Microsoft will integrate all of the expected Windows Vista functionality into what the company is calling a feature-complete build of the product. This build, which will only be delivered internally and isn't guaranteed to work at all, will mark the first time that the many disparate teams of people working on Windows Vista will submit their work for a single, unified build. In a recent briefing with the Windows client team, I was told that it would take Microsoft an expected one to two months to take the feature complete Vista build and turn it into something that actually works and can be distributed to testers.
"It's going to take a long time to get some of that stuff working," Microsoft lead product manager Greg Sullivan told me. "That's part of the cost of accelerating the code complete date. The next CTP after December will be whenever the code gets to the point where it meets our quality standards. It will be feature complete, but we're giving ourselves a bit of wiggle room to be able to check in something else towards the end of the process. Nothing is absolute. We reserve the right to add a feature later. But we are shooting for code complete this month."
Since talking to Sullivan, I've found out that Microsoft expects to deliver the next CTP in February 2006. That CTP will be the first given to testers that includes all of the features that Microsoft intends to include in the final version of the product. That said, Microsoft does reserve the right to change things in the upcoming several months before launch if needed.
_zZz_ disse:2 questoes... vai haver modo 64 bits? e o nfs sempre vai ser "adiado"?
AndreAPL disse:ha 1 coisa que nao percebo... a m$ nao disse que ia sair em versao 64bits e talvez + tarde 32bits? entao pk sao as betas todas 32bits ?? (pelo menos as que tenho visto, beta 1 e 2)
This week, Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin waxed enthusiastic in an email message to the Windows client team about the wonders of build 5286, a version of Vista that post-dates 5270 by over two weeks. "All I can say is ... wow," Allchin wrote. "This product is going to blow people away ... I am sitting here listening to Clapton, managing 4,000 photos, browsing the Internet, doing email, using search, playing with sync between PCs, etc. -- all at the same time. The [out of box experience] was cool (even with all its current issues). And on and on. The Windows team is back -- and it's smokin'!" Allchin, of course, plans to retire as soon as Vista is completed. I suspect he's as happy as anyone that the product is finally starting to show signs of life.
blastarr disse:Está certo, a versão Feature Complete distribuída internamente é a 5286, não a 5270.
O que o Vice-Pres. da MS Jim Alchin tem a dizer sobre essa versão misteriosa...:
Looking ahead
Windows Vista build 5270 isn't perfect, but it's a huge step up in a number of areas when compared with previous builds, including feature-set, stability, and fit and finish. Looking ahead, things are going to get even better. This week, Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin waxed enthusiastic in an email message to the Windows client team about the wonders of build 5286, a version of Vista that post-dates 5270 by over two weeks. "All I can say is ... wow," Allchin wrote. "This product is going to blow people away ... I am sitting here listening to Clapton, managing 4,000 photos, browsing the Internet, doing email, using search, playing with sync between PCs, etc. -- all at the same time. The [out of box experience] was cool (even with all its current issues). And on and on. The Windows team is back -- and it's smokin'!" Allchin, of course, plans to retire as soon as Vista is completed. I suspect he's as happy as anyone that the product is finally starting to show signs of life.
By the end of December, Microsoft will integrate all of the expected Windows Vista functionality into what the company is calling a feature-complete build of the product. This build, which will only be delivered internally and isn't guaranteed to work at all, will mark the first time that the many disparate teams of people working on Windows Vista will submit their work for a single, unified build. In a recent briefing with the Windows client team, I was told that it would take Microsoft an expected one to two months to take the feature complete Vista build and turn it into something that actually works and can be distributed to testers.
"It's going to take a long time to get some of that stuff working," Microsoft lead product manager Greg Sullivan told me. "That's part of the cost of accelerating the code complete date. The next CTP after December will be whenever the code gets to the point where it meets our quality standards. It will be feature complete, but we're giving ourselves a bit of wiggle room to be able to check in something else towards the end of the process. Nothing is absolute. We reserve the right to add a feature later. But we are shooting for code complete this month."
Since talking to Sullivan, I've found out that Microsoft expects to deliver the next CTP in February 2006. That CTP will be the first given to testers that includes all of the features that Microsoft intends to include in the final version of the product. That said, Microsoft does reserve the right to change things in the upcoming several months before launch if needed.
VDDM display drivers run in user mode in Vista. There is a kernel mode miniport as well, but the main driver runs in user mode. Some of the things they talked about RE: recovery from driver crashes applies here. In Vista, if a display driver faults, Windows can reload the driver or swap it with a different driver without having to reboot. Driver upgrades can also be handled w/o a reboot. During the upgrade, Windows unloads the current IHV driver, reverts to the standard VGA driver, then loads in the new IHV driver.
IHV = Integrated Hardware Vendor
blastarr disse:Depende do que entendes por build unificada...
Uma build unificada é aquela que tem tudo o que é código kernel completo.
Lembra-te que a maior parte das aplicações fora do kernel já não correm com a mesma prioridade que no XP, e são feitas em managed code, isto é, que não podem ter acesso a determinado hardware ou features do núcleo do SO.
Isto também as torna mais independentes.
Logo, ter uma build que tem o kernel completo, mas não tem o novo Paint, ou o novo Media Player, por exemplo, não significa que não seja feature complete, simplesmente significa que a infra-estrutura no SO para o receber está lá, e é estável.
Neste vídeo, a equipa "hard-core" do Windows Vista (a que desenvolve o código do núcleo) fala disso mesmo.
Sabes, coisas como isto que o actual Windows XP só pode fazer em sonhos, mas que no Windows Vista será rotina:
P.S.: Eu não confiava muito no P. Thurrot.
Ele já se enganou redondamente antes, e nem trabalha ou tem qualquer relação com a MS, mas apenas com alguns dos seus empregados, "off-the-record".
Windows Vista will no longer support DVD-ROM drives that do not handle region coding in hardware (RPC1 drives) - thus preventing playback of DVDs that are region/CSS encoded with those drives. Not a big problem, as RPC1 drives haven't been officially manufactured since 2000 (and Microsoft claims their drives are all broken), but for those with hacked drives (RPC2 with RPC1 firmware), or move the RPC1 drive to new computers, well, no more DVD movies for you!
Slashdot Story
Back in 2001 Microsoft's early betas of Windows XP contained a user interface dubbed "Watercolor". But only months before the operating system shipped Microsoft completely replaced it with an entirely different look and feel called "Luna" which became known as "Windows XP Style".
That move has created speculation that current Windows Vista look and feel, called Aero glass, would be replaced by a different look and feel later in the beta process.
However, this week's PowerUser.TV podcast has an interview with Microsoft developers who have confirmed that there will be no major change to the look and feel of Windows Vista from what is being shown in build 5270. In other words, Aero-Glass is it.