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A Qualcommn anunciou o nome do primeiro processador feito pela Nuvia. Qualcomm Oryon
2023
2023
Qualcomm kills off a major program
Analysis: This is a self-infllicted mess that we foresaw
Qualcomm just killed off a major program, one that they had been touting to the moon. If you read SemiAccurate’s coverage, we have had a differing opinion to theirs on the progress of this (now) ex-program.
https://semiaccurate.com/2022/12/08/qualcomm-kills-off-a-major-program/Sorry no hints yet above the fold, just that this is a big deal and a real messy situation but we told you it was in trouble a year ago.
Qualcomm’s PC efforts have gone from being noncompetitive to too dangerous to deploy. How bad is it? SemiAccurate asked basic questions and Qualcomm deflected them and then lied to us.
In earlier articles, SemiAccurate hinted at the sad state of Qualcomm’s CPU core efforts. Please allow us to explain a bit more about what we meant.
Como referi no inicio, nada de concreto, mas pessoalmente, fico a pensar se o Programa de SOCs para PCs, da Qualcomm, não terá sido cancelado.When Qualcomm bought Nuvia it seemed like a good fit, Qualcomm decimated their CPU core team a few years before and suddenly found themselves without any standout features for their new SoCs. The only way around this was to make or buy a core team. Making is quite possible but slow, buying is an expensive shortcut that can work really well if handled properly.
So what happened?
Amon gave away some more information on timescales that tingled our spider senses. "Late next year / beginning of 2024 you are going to see Windows PCs powered by Snapdragon with a Nuvia designed CPU," he told Cheng. This statement isn't so decisive about a delay, as late 2023 is still in line with previous statements of devices "launching in 2023.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/qualcomm-nuvia-chip-sampling-delaysUpdate 12/06 12:00 p.m. PT: A Qualcomm spokesperson has reached out to Tom’s Hardware with the following statement: “We are on track to sample the first products with our next generation CPUs this year.
Aquilo é uma interpretação minha, do pouco que se vê da noticia e pode estar totalmente errada ou demasiado "alargada".Mas o Cristiano não tinha dito que pretendia usar o IP da Nuvio também para os SoC mobile? Ou isso já se está a referir aos SoC com esse core ARM custom?
Eu diria antes que seria o mercado server que está inundado actualmente de outras ofertas. Duvido que deixem cair o mercado pc.Isto não é nada de concreto, mas o Charlie do Semiaccurate tem uma noticia com paywall sobre o cancelamento de "algo" na Qualcomm e o texto tem umas pistas que talvez indiquem que pode ser o programa de SOCs para PCs.
https://semiaccurate.com/2022/12/08/qualcomm-kills-off-a-major-program/
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Pode ser algo relacionado com o mercado mobile, mas não encontro nada de especial no artigo sobre o Series-8 Gen 1.
Já nos outros 2, algumas quotes:
Como referi no inicio, nada de concreto, mas pessoalmente, fico a pensar se o Programa de SOCs para PCs, da Qualcomm, não terá sido cancelado.
Veremos, até porque isso teria consequências para a Microsoft, visto o Windows on ARM, actualmente, só ser suportado em chips Qualcomm.
Aqueles Cores são designs da Nuvia.Meh! usando os cores de referência da ARM jamais será concorrência aos apple M.
Se fosse finalmente com os designs da Nuvia ainda teria esperança mas assim esquece.
Ups! Apenas li o teu resumo e não os tweets lol. Faltou esse pequeno grande pormenor que faz toda a diferença lol.Aqueles Cores são designs da Nuvia.
Qualcomm Snapdragon X series unveiled with Oryon CPUs to rival Apple M SoCs
Qualcomm has presented initial details about Snapdragon X, its new chipset series aimed at the PC industry. Built around next-generation Oryon CPUs, Snapdragon X is being billed as a 'quantum leap forward in performance and power efficiency', thereby challenging current alternatives from the Apple M, AMD Ryzen and Intel Core series.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Qualc...ryon-CPUs-to-rival-Apple-M-SoCs.758617.0.htmlIn short, Qualcomm is holding almost all details about the Snapdragon X series back for now, including its logo.
The same applies to concrete details about its forthcoming processors. Unsurprisingly, it will wait until this year's Snapdragon Summit, which will run between October 24 and October 26 in Hawaii. Nonetheless, Qualcomm has outlined that it will deliver inaugural Snapdragon X processors in 2024.
CPU | Qualcomm® Oryon™ CPU 64-bit Architecture 12 cores, up to 3.8 GHz Single and Dual-Core Boost, up to 4.3 GHz |
GPU | Qualcomm® Adreno™ GPU Up to 4.6 TFLOPs API Support: DX12 |
Memory | Memory Type: LPDDR5x Transfer rate: 8533 MT/s Capacity: Up to 64 GB Bandwidth: 136 GB/s Bit Width: 16-bit Number of Channels: 8 |
Storage | SD: SD v3.0 SSD/NVMe Interface: NVMe SSD over PCIe Gen 4 UFS: UFS 4.0 |
Display | Display Processing Unit (DPU) Name: Qualcomm® Adreno™ DPU Max. On-Device Display Resolution: eDP v1.4b, up to UHD120 HDR10 Max. External Display Resolution: DP v1.4 – 3 displays, up to UHD60 HDR10, 2 displays 5K60 |
VPU | Video Processing Unit (VPU) Name: Qualcomm® Adreno™ VPU Encode: 4K60 10-bit encode – H.264, HEVC (H.265), AV1 Decode: 4K120 10-bit decode – H.264, HEVC (H.265), VP9, AV1 Concurrency: 4K60 decode – H.264, HEVC (H.265), VP9, AV1 / 2x 4K30 encode – H.264, HEVC (H.265), AV1 |
Camera | Image Signal Processor Name: Qualcomm Spectra™ ISP Dual 18-bit ISPs Always-sensing ISP Dual Camera: 2x 36 MP Single Camera: Up to 64 MP Video Capture: 4K HDR |
Wi-Fi/Bluetooth | Wi-Fi/Bluetooth System: Qualcomm® FastConnect™ 7800 System Generations: Wi-Fi 7, Wi-Fi 6E, Wi-Fi 6 Standards: 802.11be, 802.11ax, 802.11ac, 802.11n, 802.11g, 802.11b, 802.11a Spectral Bands: 6 GHz, 5 GHz, 2.4 GHz Spatial Streams: Up to 4 Peak QAM: 4K QAM Features: Passpoint, 8×8 Sounding, TDLS, Wi-Fi QoS Management, Wi-Fi Optimized Connectivity, Wi-Fi Location, OFDMA (UL/DL), Miracast, Target Wake Time, Voice-Enterprise, MU-MIMO (UL/ DL), Multi-Link Operation (MLO), High-band Simultaneous (HBS) Bluetooth Specification Version: Bluetooth 5.4 Bluetooth Connection Technology: Bluetooth LE M.2. Interface: WiFi M.2. card over PCIe Gen 3 |
USB | USB Specification Version: USB 4.0 Interface Type: 3x USB-C 3x USB4, 2x USB3.2 Gen2, 1x eUSB2 |
Qualcomm is releasing a new AI super-charged platform called the Snapdragon X Elite that aims to revolutionize the PC landscape with faster CPU performance (up to 2 times vs. competitors) at just one-third of the power consumption. The company’s latest top-of-the-range CPU, Qualcomm Orion, makes this possible.
https://windowsreport.com/snapdragon-x-elite/Based on a 4nm architecture, the CPU has 12 high-performance cores clocked at 3.8GHz, with a dual-core boost of 4.3GHz. The memory is LPDDR5x with 42MB of total cache and 136 GB/s memory bandwidth. This combo promises 50% better multi-thread performance than ARM-based competitors. Other specs include support for internal display up to 4K@120Hz, HDR10, triple UHD or dual 5K external display support, and an integrated Qualcomm Adreno GPU.
Nvidia has quietly begun designing central processing units (CPUs) that would run Microsoft’s (MSFT.O) Windows operating system and use technology from Arm Holdings(O9Ty.F), , two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
The AI chip giant's new pursuit is part of Microsoft's effort to help chip companies build Arm-based processors for Windows PCs.
https://www.reuters.com/technology/...c-chips-major-new-challenge-intel-2023-10-23/Advanced Micro Devices (AMD.O) also plans to make chips for PCs with Arm technology, according to two people familiar with the matter.
Nvidia and AMD could sell PC chips as soon as 2025, one of the people familiar with the matter said. Nvidia and AMD would join Qualcomm (QCOM.O), which has been making Arm-based chips for laptops since 2016.
Microsoft granted Qualcomm an exclusivity arrangement to develop Windows-compatible chips until 2024, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
Temos aqui a data do fim da exclusividade da Qualcomm. Também parece ser a Microsoft que está a puxar pelo mercado, para produzirem SOCs ARM para o mercado consumidor.Microsoft has encouraged others to enter the market once that exclusivity deal expires, the two sources told Reuters.
The move would attack Intel’s home turf at a difficult time for the pioneer of PC processors. Under Chief Executive Officer Pat Gelsinger, Intel has been fighting to regain market share and its technological edge. The addition of Nvidia and AMD to a field that includes Apple and Qualcomm only adds to its challenges.
And then there’s AMD. Under CEO Lisa Su, that company has shed its longtime reputation as a low-budget competitor to Intel and delivered several generations of products that have won market share. AMD had previously said it would consider Arm-based products but shelved that effort. More recently, Su has said that the company would produce custom products with combinations of technology, including Arm, if asked by customers.
https://archive.ph/5oX5ZLike Nvidia’s PC chips, Arm’s Arm-based processors could go on sale as early as 2025, people familiar with the matter said.