Microsoft To Construct iPod/DS/PSP Killer

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Microsoft's Plans For Handheld Game Player And "iPod Killer"

Dean Takahashi, 03:05 AM in Dean Takahashi, Gaming

Here's a story that came from reporting for my book, which is coming out in May under the title "The Xbox 360 Uncloaked: The Real Story Behind Microsoft's Next-Generation Video Game Console," www.spiderworks.com/xbox360.

In a bid to capture the huge audience for handheld entertainment gadgets, Microsoft is designing a product that combines video games, music and video in one handheld device, according to sources familiar with the project.

The Microsoft product would compete with Sony, Nintendo and Apple Computer's products,
including the iPod. And Microsoft has some of its most seasoned talent from the division that created its popular Xbox 360 working on it. Game executive J Allard leads the project, and its director is Greg Gibson, who was the system designer on the Xbox 360 video game console. Bryan Lee, the finance chief on the Xbox business, is leading the business side of the project.

By anchoring its entertainment device as a handheld game player, Microsoft is starting from its position of strength in the entertainment business that it hopes Apple cannot match, even with its iPod. The game press has dubbed it an "iPod killer,'' but its functions would likely more closely resemble Sony's PlayStation Portable multimedia gaming device.

While details are sketchy, the pedigree of the people in charge of the business show how strategic it is to Microsoft's future.

"That would certainly be an interesting development in the market,'' said Anita Frazier, a game industry analyst at the NPD Group.

The other competitors have huge leads on Microsoft. But the Xbox veterans have been underdogs for a while. Gibson, 35, is an electrical engineer who joined Microsoft in 1997 to help design computer mice and other hardware. He shifted to the Xbox division in 1999 to help design the innards of the original Xbox. In 2002, he became the system designer in charge of the overall design of the Xbox 360.

Allard, a 36-year-old progammer who became famous for prompting Bill Gates to take the Internet seriously, commanded much of the hardware and software teams who put together the Xbox 360. Lee, a longtime entertainment executive, joined Microsoft as finance chief for the Xbox a few years ago.

The approval of the project spurred the reorganization of the leadership team in the Home and Entertainment Division in December. In September, Robbie Bach, formerly the chief Xbox officer, was promoted to lead the Entertainment and Devices Group, which combined the Xbox with other mobile and entertainment businesses in one of four major product groups.

Then in December, the jobs of the top Xbox executives were broadened so that they could manage all of the businesses related to the broader Entertainment and Devices Group, which included the Xbox business, mobile devices, MSN, music, and home productivity software. Allard, whose group designed the Xbox 360, was named to head "experience and design'' for the entire group.

Sources say that the reason for the reorganization was to bring Allard, Lee, Gibson and all of the relevant businesses into a single group, which is supervised by Robbie Bach. The participation of these highly regarded Xbox veterans suggests that Microsoft is very serious about catching up with Sony's PlayStation Portable handheld game player, Apple's iPod music players, and Nintendo's handheld GameBoy Advance and Nintendo DS game players.

In the past, all of Microsoft's efforts to compete have fallen short. The company considered making an ""Xboy'' game player a few years ago but shelved the idea. It considered making a game handheld at the same time it devised plans for the Xbox 360 in 2002 and 2003, but it again decided to delay its entry.

Meanwhile, Microsoft's efforts in PocketPC handhelds and Portable Media Players have fallen short in competition with the iPod. Last week, Microsoft unveiled Project Origami, a handheld Windows computer. But that device isn't targeted on pure entertainment as the Xplayer is. The existence of these other projects suggests that there is still some infighting within Microsoft about its best approach to portable gadgets.

The handheld project is still in its early stages. Microsoft is still figuring out which strategy to pursue in music technology, according to sources familiar with the matter. The code name for its music service, which would be the equivalent of Apple's iTunes, is "Alexandria.''

One benefit of waiting longer is that the handheld will likely have sufficient technology in it to run a lot of original Xbox games from a few years ago. Hence, it wouldn't be hard to create a new library of games for the handheld.

Signs of activity have surfaced. Transmeta, a maker of low-power chip technology, said last year that it had assigned 30 engineers to work with Microsoft on a secret project. Transmeta's engineers work on ways to take the power out of computing chips so that they can be used in handheld devices with long battery lives.

In an interview with Business Week in January, Xbox corporate vice president Peter Moore said "it can't just be our version of the iPod'' and added the Xbox brand "is an opportunity'' if Microsoft decides to enter the mobile entertainment competition. He declined to comment on the rumor about the handheld. But sources familiar with the project confirmed its existence within the Xbox organization.

What remains to be seen is when Microsoft will launch the device. Gibson may not need a large engineering team to run the project. But his group of hardware engineers only became free last fall, when most work on the Xbox 360 was completed.

It could be 2007 before the device hits store shelves. That gives rivals such as Sony, Nintendo and Apple considerable time to consolidate their position and come up with their own new gadgets in the meantime.

The Mercury News strives to avoid use of unnamed sources. When unnamed sources are used because information cannot otherwise be obtained, the newspaper generally requires more than
one source to confirm the information.
 
Pá venha ela, um concorrente de peso à PSP, maravilha! :)
Isto só pode ser bom para a Microsoft, dá peso à marca X-Box.
 
Corre jogos da 1ª geração de xbox?

Hum.. não estou a ver nenhum gpu móvel capaz de o fazer.. A menos que lhe metam um gpu desktop castrado de maneira a não consumir muito..
 
A PSP tem quase a mesma potência da PS2 e saiu o ano passado. Esta só deverá chegar para o ano na melhor das hipóteses. Quanto mais esperarem mais provavél esse cenário se torna :)

Mas tal como na PSP a bateria não deve durar muito.
 
Daqui a um ano ou dois provavelmente fazem isso com alguma facilidade
A PSP também tem praticamente o mesmo poder gráfico que a PS2 (há quem até considere mais)
Mas se a ideia for usar a XBOX como termo de comparação quando esta coisa da MS chegar já a PSP terá uns 3 anos de mercado e deve estar mais que trabalhada em termos de programação (o que já começa a estar agora) e conteúdos e já deve haver uma espécie de PSP "slim" mais barata e com flash incorporada (uns 2 a 4 GB provavelmente).
Acho que esta coisa da MS precisa de ser mesmo portente para entrar bem no mercado
 
According to sources that are familiar with the project (so evidently it is already underway) Microsoft plans to take on the Handheld Gaming market by making a device that combines video games, music and video playback all in one device. Microsoft hopes to complete with not only the Sony PSP and the Nintendo DS, but also with Apples iPod audio and video players as well. Apparently Microsoft's most seasoned talent is working on the project, such as Bryan Lee, the finance chief, and the same designers that brought us the Xbox 360 gaming console.

There are many advantages to having each system (portable gaming / music / video) that Microsoft hopes to roll into one. Press have already retitled the device as a "iPod killer" but with the gaming aspect it may be hard for Apple to compete with such a unit. Without a sketch or design it is rather hard to say how the device will look, however it is rumored to "resemble Sony's PSP" in respect to control elements."That would certainly be an interesting development in the market,'' said Anita Frazier, a game industry analyst at the NPD Group.Its obvious that other groups have a large leap on Microsoft. The DS has a widespread market share in almost all parts of the globe. The initial change started in December when Robbie Bach, formerly the chief Xbox officer, was promoted to lead the Entertainment and Devices Group in charge of Xbox, and other mobile and entertainment business aspects. Allard, who designed the Xbox 360 now is employed under the title of "experience and design" for the entire group.

In the past, Microsoft's efforts to compete portable gaming device have fallen short. The company considered making an ""Xboy'' game player a few years ago but shelved the idea. Meanwhile, Microsoft's efforts in PocketPC handhelds and Portable Media Players have also fallen short in competition with the iPod. But when will we see this device coming from Microsoft? Estimates state that it could easily be 2007 or later possibly before the device ever hits the store shelves. Giving rivals Sony, Nintendo and Apple ample time to setup their markets before the new device comes to contend with currently available products.

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nao devem ser imagens verdadeiras
 
Bleh... coisas portateis, quer acreditem quer não nunca comprei uma unica coisa portatil, nem PC, nem consola, nem telefone, nada mesmo. A não ser que se considere uma carteira um cofre portatil :D
 
Timerever disse:
Bleh... coisas portateis, quer acreditem quer não nunca comprei uma unica coisa portatil, nem PC, nem consola, nem telefone, nada mesmo. A não ser que se considere uma carteira um cofre portatil :D

Tens aversão a telemoveis? :P
 
creio que já há imagens oficiais...

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Fonte: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200603/N06.0301.1632.46519.htm

Site oficial? -> http://origamiproject.com/default.aspx

Se isto fôr uma entrada no mercado de consolas portáteis features para usar em jogos... pareçe um "best of" de ideias tiradas (e testadas) na PSP e DS... >(

Mas não acho que seja esse o entuito (se estas imagens forem verdadeiras), mas depende muito do alvo da coisa, pareçe que está a correr Windows e os PDA's usam touch screens desde sempre... pode ser um produto para competir pelo multimédia, directamente contra o Zen Video e o Ipod Video (uns passos à frente devo dizer) ou... mais uma entry contra o Zodiac e GPX2 e devo dizer que a organização dos butões para gaming não me parece, de longe, a melhor.

mas para competição directa com a DS e PSP acho mal, o mercado alargou bastante com a PSP e DS, a Nintendo não está a vender menos, antes pelo contrário... e a Sony passou das 0 unidades no mercado portátil para unidades consideráveis... o mercado não é assim tão grande e ainda não estabilizou, acho má ideia pensar-se nisto agora...
 
I_Eat_All... não te quero desiludir, mas antes a leste! :p

Isso são supostamente mockups do Origami!

PS - A não ser que os mockups sejam tão versáteis que dão para várias noticias! :D
 
greven disse:
I_Eat_All... não te quero desiludir, mas antes a leste! :p

Isso são supostamente mockups do Origami!

PS - A não ser que os mockups sejam tão versáteis que dão para várias noticias! :D
daí que eu meti em duvida com sinal de interrogação à frente e tudo :p

mas sim, estou um bocado a leste, apanhei isso a boiar na net e nem li bem, postei logo as imagens aqui e comentei.
 
freakdahouse disse:
Tens aversão a telemoveis? :P
Tenho, alias devo ser o unico gajo que conheço da minha idade que não teve, não tem e não faz intenções de ter telemovel. Eu penso assim: "Se nos boms velhos tempos (idos de 1700) ninguem precisava de telemoveis eu tambem não." ...... :lol:
Agora a serio, a 10 anos atras, quando tinha 11 anos nunca houve uma unica vez em que tenha sentido a necessidade de um telefone portatil, mesmo nas situação mais apertadas. Agora todos os putos de 7 anos tem um... :-/
 
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Uma pena que as consolas portáteis Gamepark Koreanas , nomeadamente a mais recente Gamepark XGP tenham pouca divulgação na Europa.
Seria um sério concorrente à PSP, e ainda mais para quem gosta de retro-gaming.


Uma concorrente da PSP e não me importava nada de ter uma.

Estou completamente babado pela GP2X:

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Baseada no Linux:

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Existem também outros modelos:

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Ou então até a versão anterior .

Faz-me de certa maneira lembrar o que aconteceu antigamente, quando somente tinhamos Megadrives e Super Nintendos e existia a Neo Geo que batia tudo e todos, mas que tinha muito pouca saída (também devido ao seu elevadissimo preço, nomeadamente dos jogos). E também das Turbografx que nada se arranjava cá em Portugal.
 
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