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Não sei já alguém referiu mas as especulações são tantas em torno de qual sairá vencedora que já se recorre (de novo) ao 3dmark para lançar flames acerda das placas...parece k a nvidia a mandar nrs para o ar ganha sempre...a ver vamos se na práctica assim o será...
"Description
The intensity of the latest graphics squabble between nVidia and ATI, NV40/R420, seems to be entering a new chapter as 3DMark 03 scores are starting to circulate.
The much discussed and disputed benchmarking suite is re-entering the limelight as reports of stunning NV40 scores are beginning to appear.
It is strange how nVidia may hope to use 3DMark03, after the company claimed the software was not a reliable way of judging real-world graphics performance but the latest reports, suggesting scores of 12,535, may change all that. That particular score is rather impressive, considering that the best current score, using severe cooling and overclocking methods, just about passes the 10k barrier.
Both companies were busy at CeBit this year claiming that their new babies would pass 10k on 3DMark 03 but ATI seemed to be a bit more reserved, claiming that a 10k score would be a peak value rather than an average one.
The sources that claim nVidia's NV40 has reached the magnificent 12,535 score say that this was achieved using pre-production engineering samples of the chip but raise doubts as to the exact combination of drivers used in order to attain such dizzy heights.
Unfortunately nVidia's past record with that particular benchmark suite is not reliable enough for everyone to accept such figures without a pinch of salt and many experts suggest that 3DMark 03 is a sucker for nVidia's method of counting pipelines.
Even if most NV40s that reach retail cannot attain such a score it is becoming increasingly obvious that that particular chip may beat ATIs R420 but in order for that to become widely accepted we will have to see the whole industry accept 3DMark 03 as a reliable indicator of 3D graphics performance. "
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Description
The indirect war of words between the two major graphics players, on the run-up to the release of their latest products, is escalating. The "hot-topic" of the moment is the number of pipelines that nVidia's NV40 chip will utilize.
For most casual gamers the term pipelines is familiar but not comprehensible. The current dispute however, claims that the winner of the new graphics war will be decided on the number of pipelines. Pipelines in a graphics card are used to render pixels so, for example, eight pipelines are able to render eight pixels in a single texturing pass and can even do sixteen if you render two pixels/pipeline in the same pass using an 8x2 architecture.
nVidia claims that the NV40 will feature 16x1 architecture and that, in some cases, 32x0. ATI claim that their R420 product will feature 12x1 pipelines suggesting that, provided nVidia's claims hold, the NV40 will get to wear the performance crown.
Unfortunately the story does not end there since the latest reports on nVidia's NV40 chip claim that it will still have 8 physical pipelines but that it will, under certain conditions, mimic 16 pipelines providing better performance in very specific applications and in 3DMark. ATI's R420, so far, is accepted as having a 12x1 architecture, meaning that it will have 12 physical pipelines.
According to experts nVidia plans to use Vertex shader and Pixel Shader in imaginative ways in order to achieve the virtual doubling of the NV40's pipelines. If this is the case the NV40 is guaranteed the crown in Doom 3 and other games using the same engine but in non-compatible games that method would definitely have a negative impact on visual quality.
Since nVidia are not commenting on the issue and since anyone who knows has signed a Non-Dislosure Agreement the resolution to this issue will come when the product is revealed in less than a month. ATI's R420 will appear a couple of weeks after the NV40 and the latest news claims that the whole range of ATI's products will carry Counter-Strike 2 coupons.
Before things get emotional regarding the winner of the NV40/R420 war remember that the most important thing about new chips being released is that their presence makes the older ones i.e. FX5950 and RADEON 9800 more affordable.
Links:
nr.1
nr.2
Se nestes dias andasse por San Francisco até lá ia dar tareia n1s americanos agora assim...é a sorte deles...hehehe
Parece k tou a ver 1 engenheiro da ati disfarçado com 1a pre-sample d r420 a entrar la, sentar-se abrir a torre sacar a nv40, meter a r420 e ficar tudo parvo a olhar pa ele...havia de ser lindo
....
Agora a sério...a concorrência é boa, será k a nvidia fica com a coroa de novo?????
Cumps
Vortan
"Description
The intensity of the latest graphics squabble between nVidia and ATI, NV40/R420, seems to be entering a new chapter as 3DMark 03 scores are starting to circulate.
The much discussed and disputed benchmarking suite is re-entering the limelight as reports of stunning NV40 scores are beginning to appear.
It is strange how nVidia may hope to use 3DMark03, after the company claimed the software was not a reliable way of judging real-world graphics performance but the latest reports, suggesting scores of 12,535, may change all that. That particular score is rather impressive, considering that the best current score, using severe cooling and overclocking methods, just about passes the 10k barrier.
Both companies were busy at CeBit this year claiming that their new babies would pass 10k on 3DMark 03 but ATI seemed to be a bit more reserved, claiming that a 10k score would be a peak value rather than an average one.
The sources that claim nVidia's NV40 has reached the magnificent 12,535 score say that this was achieved using pre-production engineering samples of the chip but raise doubts as to the exact combination of drivers used in order to attain such dizzy heights.
Unfortunately nVidia's past record with that particular benchmark suite is not reliable enough for everyone to accept such figures without a pinch of salt and many experts suggest that 3DMark 03 is a sucker for nVidia's method of counting pipelines.
Even if most NV40s that reach retail cannot attain such a score it is becoming increasingly obvious that that particular chip may beat ATIs R420 but in order for that to become widely accepted we will have to see the whole industry accept 3DMark 03 as a reliable indicator of 3D graphics performance. "
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Description
The indirect war of words between the two major graphics players, on the run-up to the release of their latest products, is escalating. The "hot-topic" of the moment is the number of pipelines that nVidia's NV40 chip will utilize.
For most casual gamers the term pipelines is familiar but not comprehensible. The current dispute however, claims that the winner of the new graphics war will be decided on the number of pipelines. Pipelines in a graphics card are used to render pixels so, for example, eight pipelines are able to render eight pixels in a single texturing pass and can even do sixteen if you render two pixels/pipeline in the same pass using an 8x2 architecture.
nVidia claims that the NV40 will feature 16x1 architecture and that, in some cases, 32x0. ATI claim that their R420 product will feature 12x1 pipelines suggesting that, provided nVidia's claims hold, the NV40 will get to wear the performance crown.
Unfortunately the story does not end there since the latest reports on nVidia's NV40 chip claim that it will still have 8 physical pipelines but that it will, under certain conditions, mimic 16 pipelines providing better performance in very specific applications and in 3DMark. ATI's R420, so far, is accepted as having a 12x1 architecture, meaning that it will have 12 physical pipelines.
According to experts nVidia plans to use Vertex shader and Pixel Shader in imaginative ways in order to achieve the virtual doubling of the NV40's pipelines. If this is the case the NV40 is guaranteed the crown in Doom 3 and other games using the same engine but in non-compatible games that method would definitely have a negative impact on visual quality.
Since nVidia are not commenting on the issue and since anyone who knows has signed a Non-Dislosure Agreement the resolution to this issue will come when the product is revealed in less than a month. ATI's R420 will appear a couple of weeks after the NV40 and the latest news claims that the whole range of ATI's products will carry Counter-Strike 2 coupons.
Before things get emotional regarding the winner of the NV40/R420 war remember that the most important thing about new chips being released is that their presence makes the older ones i.e. FX5950 and RADEON 9800 more affordable.
Links:
nr.1
nr.2
Se nestes dias andasse por San Francisco até lá ia dar tareia n1s americanos agora assim...é a sorte deles...hehehe
Parece k tou a ver 1 engenheiro da ati disfarçado com 1a pre-sample d r420 a entrar la, sentar-se abrir a torre sacar a nv40, meter a r420 e ficar tudo parvo a olhar pa ele...havia de ser lindo
....Agora a sério...a concorrência é boa, será k a nvidia fica com a coroa de novo?????
Cumps
Vortan
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. Se levares, chama-me nVidiot ou gay que eu não me importo 
