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[Wii] Developer Support Thread
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I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Acho que isso está, à partida, fora de questão... A acontecer é nas linhas do NiGHTS ou do Samba de Amigo Wii... Rez é que pela natureza do gameplay e direcção artistica... não precisa até porque envelheceu muito pouco.
O mesmo não se pode dizer de Space Channel 5, e o gameplay teria de ser bem adaptado, Rez seria bem mais facil, era só re-programar o aiming do joystick para o wiimote com sensor bar e remapear uns butões... Uma abordagem semelhante no SC5 seria a meu ver, um desastre.
R3d_D3v1l_
Power Member
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Venha ele; e com gráficos que puxem a Wii como o SC3 puxava a PS2 se faz favore. (não podemos dizer o mesmo do SC Legends).
Mais uma engine:
Fonte: http://pulsastart.blogspot.com/2007/09/scaleform-gfx-se-une-las-herramientas.html
E... Mais um Middleware:
Fonte: http://home.nestor.minsk.by/game/news/2007/10/1101.html
Fonte: http://home.nestor.minsk.by/game/news/2007/10/0908.html
Wiimcast
Fonte: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ea-grabs-two-devs/ea-buys-bioware-pandemic-309937.php
Bioware na Wii!
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I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Fonte: http://www.modojo.com/features/20071012/245/interview_dementium_the_ward/
Desejo-lhes sorte.
Entrevista com o Falcoon da SNK:
Fonte: http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives/2007/10/11/tgs-4cr-interview-falcoon-snk-playmore/
GlassPrisioner
Power Member
Muito bem dito. Eu até dou muito mais valor à 'arte', do que a um poderoso grafismo que faz-nos visualizar quase a realidade. Agora, há é poucos jogos com tal arte visual, a tal genialidade de um traço bem construído.
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Só não sublinhei essa parte porque discordo de certo modo em dizer que uma consola não é "potente"
, pode é não ser potente como as outras; mas ele deve decerto saber isso; para SD... é relativamente potente.
GlassPrisioner
Power Member
Só não sublinhei essa parte porque discordo de certo modo em dizer que uma consola não é "potente"
Sim, eu não queria dar a entender que a consola não é potente, e acho que nem o próprio queria. Terá sido, com certeza, uma pequena comparação à concorrência.
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Eu sei
e também digo... nunca vi gráficos 3D de topo da SNK (*cough* KoF 3D *cough*)... mas o 2D deles continua a ser de topo, independentemente do hardware.Level-5 interessada em trabalhar na Wii:
Fonte: http://www.inside-games.jp/news/244/24411.html
Quem sabe se o desejo deles não é concretizado via Dragon Quest X
Mas qualquer RPG deles seria bem vindo.Entrevista com a Treasure na revista Nintendo Power:
Fonte: http://www.the-bell-tree.com/vg/ind...ll&id=1193085373&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&
Novo Sin and Punishment possivel na Wii?
bring it on! E metam o Ikaruga no Wiiware (apesar de eu o ter), se faz favore, que com jeitinho fica abaixo dos 70 MB. 
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Developer do Psychonauts:
Fonte: http://kotaku.com/gaming/psychonauts/anyone-for-more-psychonauts-313783.php
Yggdrasil
Power Member
Excertos de um artigo do Advanced Media Network:
Dogma: The Wii Software Problem
"An unfortunate dogma has formed in the past decade among the development community and the Nintendo Wii is suffering from its effects. The common misconception that only Nintendo-published titles can be successful on Nintendo platforms has caused publishers to shy away from their latest console and instead just pepper it with mediocre games to test the waters.When these games do not sell well in comparison to Nintendo's first-party blockbusters, these companies use that as proof to justify their previous beliefs and the cycle continues.
(...)
Unfortunately, despite the Wii's success many members of the development community still subscribe to the belief that only Nintendo-published software can find success on their platforms. If these individuals actually scanned the sales charts they would see a very different picture. Despite not producing a single game that averages 9.0 from major gaming publications, third parties have made respectable profit on the Wii. Ubi Soft in particular, with Red Steel and Rayman Raving Rabbids, has found success on the platform without producing a single title worthy of critical acclaim. Sega released a Sonic the Hedgehog title on all three platforms and the Wii version sold best. This was in spite of the fact the 360 and PS3 Sonics were released during the holiday season and the Wii version went to retail in March, a traditionally slow period. Capcom's Resident Evil 4 remake sold respectably as well despite the fact Wii owners could buy the GameCube version for half the price and still play it on the same console. With all the mediocre titles succeeding on Wii, it makes one wonder how a fantastic and critically-acclaimed effort would do. The problem is that the development community has taken what was once a reality– that Nintendo fans only play Nintendo games– and have set that in stone to the point where it has become dogma. No amount of evidence seems to sway this opinion, and the standards of comparison are far from fair.
(...)
Thus far, no publisher has stepped up to the plate with a Wii game that can rival Nintendo's best efforts. We're seeing those games on other platforms but not on the Wii. Publishers are trotting out second and third tier titles and expecting them to do as well as Zelda or Mario, and this is simply an unreasonable expectation. If publishers want to see better results on Nintendo hardware, they need to start bringing better games to the platforms. It's easy to simply say that third parties do better on the 360 than on the Wii and assume that it's because of some bias Nintendo fans have, but a look at the context simply destroys that point of view.
(...)
Another interesting point to note, and something that has perhaps been overlooked in this entire debate, is that the quality of major Nintendo titles has been incredibly controversial ever since the GameCube. During the N64's lifespan, Nintendo was the undisputed best software developer on the planet, with revolutionary titles like Mario 64 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time to bolster that reputation, so it was understandable for publishers to be a bit intimidated by that. But for the last six years, Nintendo's own fans have been embroiled in spirited debates about whether the latest editions to the company's flagship franchises are even worthy successors at all. Nintendo is no longer the unquestionable alpha dog of the industry and because of this many Nintendo fans are more open to outside ideas.
(...)
NCL needs to take a page out of Sony's book and leverage their superior install base for some key exclusives in traditional genres. If developers are still hesitant, which they no doubt will be thanks to the aforementioned dogma, then sweeten the pot a bit. Reduce licensing fees on specific titles or agree to set aside a set advertising budget to assist AAA exclusives. These sorts of sweetheart deals will get developers in the door. By giving them a favorable situation where they feel they cannot fail, even with their belief that Nintendo's titles will sell better regardless, it gives them the opportunity to unknowingly prove themselves wrong. If Nintendo gives Namco a great deal on a major project and it is incredibly successful, they won't have to push them again. The publisher will begin another project, and if several key titles from crucial publishers are treated in this way, the situation will snowball in Nintendo's favor. The sales data thus far should makes this a risk worth taking from a business perspective.
(...)
If Nintendo commits to reinvesting some of the ridiculous profit they've gleaned from their recent success into strengthening third party relationships, they will be paid back by that gamble several times over. By giving publishers a perfect situation to succeed, Nintendo can open their eyes to the profit they can make on their platform and the games will continue to come without need of any further coaxing."
Artigo completo: http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10917
Dogma: The Wii Software Problem
"An unfortunate dogma has formed in the past decade among the development community and the Nintendo Wii is suffering from its effects. The common misconception that only Nintendo-published titles can be successful on Nintendo platforms has caused publishers to shy away from their latest console and instead just pepper it with mediocre games to test the waters.When these games do not sell well in comparison to Nintendo's first-party blockbusters, these companies use that as proof to justify their previous beliefs and the cycle continues.
(...)
Unfortunately, despite the Wii's success many members of the development community still subscribe to the belief that only Nintendo-published software can find success on their platforms. If these individuals actually scanned the sales charts they would see a very different picture. Despite not producing a single game that averages 9.0 from major gaming publications, third parties have made respectable profit on the Wii. Ubi Soft in particular, with Red Steel and Rayman Raving Rabbids, has found success on the platform without producing a single title worthy of critical acclaim. Sega released a Sonic the Hedgehog title on all three platforms and the Wii version sold best. This was in spite of the fact the 360 and PS3 Sonics were released during the holiday season and the Wii version went to retail in March, a traditionally slow period. Capcom's Resident Evil 4 remake sold respectably as well despite the fact Wii owners could buy the GameCube version for half the price and still play it on the same console. With all the mediocre titles succeeding on Wii, it makes one wonder how a fantastic and critically-acclaimed effort would do. The problem is that the development community has taken what was once a reality– that Nintendo fans only play Nintendo games– and have set that in stone to the point where it has become dogma. No amount of evidence seems to sway this opinion, and the standards of comparison are far from fair.
(...)
Thus far, no publisher has stepped up to the plate with a Wii game that can rival Nintendo's best efforts. We're seeing those games on other platforms but not on the Wii. Publishers are trotting out second and third tier titles and expecting them to do as well as Zelda or Mario, and this is simply an unreasonable expectation. If publishers want to see better results on Nintendo hardware, they need to start bringing better games to the platforms. It's easy to simply say that third parties do better on the 360 than on the Wii and assume that it's because of some bias Nintendo fans have, but a look at the context simply destroys that point of view.
(...)
Another interesting point to note, and something that has perhaps been overlooked in this entire debate, is that the quality of major Nintendo titles has been incredibly controversial ever since the GameCube. During the N64's lifespan, Nintendo was the undisputed best software developer on the planet, with revolutionary titles like Mario 64 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time to bolster that reputation, so it was understandable for publishers to be a bit intimidated by that. But for the last six years, Nintendo's own fans have been embroiled in spirited debates about whether the latest editions to the company's flagship franchises are even worthy successors at all. Nintendo is no longer the unquestionable alpha dog of the industry and because of this many Nintendo fans are more open to outside ideas.
(...)
NCL needs to take a page out of Sony's book and leverage their superior install base for some key exclusives in traditional genres. If developers are still hesitant, which they no doubt will be thanks to the aforementioned dogma, then sweeten the pot a bit. Reduce licensing fees on specific titles or agree to set aside a set advertising budget to assist AAA exclusives. These sorts of sweetheart deals will get developers in the door. By giving them a favorable situation where they feel they cannot fail, even with their belief that Nintendo's titles will sell better regardless, it gives them the opportunity to unknowingly prove themselves wrong. If Nintendo gives Namco a great deal on a major project and it is incredibly successful, they won't have to push them again. The publisher will begin another project, and if several key titles from crucial publishers are treated in this way, the situation will snowball in Nintendo's favor. The sales data thus far should makes this a risk worth taking from a business perspective.
(...)
If Nintendo commits to reinvesting some of the ridiculous profit they've gleaned from their recent success into strengthening third party relationships, they will be paid back by that gamble several times over. By giving publishers a perfect situation to succeed, Nintendo can open their eyes to the profit they can make on their platform and the games will continue to come without need of any further coaxing."
Artigo completo: http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=10917
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Esse artigo é muito bom; tenho alguns reparos a fazer no entanto... Todos os fabricantes de consolas fazem descida de fee's para alguns titulos, é uma maneira de muitas vezes conseguir um timed exclusive, ou precisamente... tirar duvidas à developer em apostar na consola. Simplesmente não é algo do dominio publico, senão todas umas developers sentiam-se injustiçadas por não terem o mesmo tratamento, etc... Há sempre NDA's nessas questões, mas não quer dizer que a Nintendo não as pratique em casos pontuais (falou-se na altura do RE4 na GC que era o caso).
Por exemplo... com o Dragon Quest 9 na DS a Nintendo é que vai pagar a publicidade do jogo no Japão. Há uma troca de favores, apesar de fazer o jogo para a DS também dê jeito à Square-Enix. É muito possivel que as fee's de licenciamento também sejam mais baixas.
Por exemplo... com o Dragon Quest 9 na DS a Nintendo é que vai pagar a publicidade do jogo no Japão. Há uma troca de favores, apesar de fazer o jogo para a DS também dê jeito à Square-Enix. É muito possivel que as fee's de licenciamento também sejam mais baixas.
Yggdrasil
Power Member
Assassin's Creed on Wii "Possible," Would Be Different
Fonte: http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11011
Fonte: http://wii.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=11011
I_Eat_All
Plasma Beam!
Bizzare fala da possibilidade de desenvolver para a Wii: (Bizzarre=Meninos do PGR)
Eis algo que eu definitivamente gostava de ver, faltam Racers do género (e dos bons) na Wii. Seria até uma boa oportunidade para eles devido à falta de concorrência, digo eu.
Equipa do Time Crisis 4 fala na Wii:
Point Blank Wii? E porque não Time Crisis Wii? (o Time Crisis 4 corria em hardware PS2 de arcade, apesar de ter sido agora portado para a PS3, não há qualquer problema técnico em fazê-lo correr na Wii)
Entrevista com o presidente da Square-Enix, Wada Yoichi com a nikkei:
About time! agora mostrem é jogos, porque neste momento até a PSP; com o FF7CC, um KH a vir, o Dissidia, remakes do Star Ocean 1 e 2 e ports de jogos square-enix retro a dar com um pau... tem mais suporte... e nem aparece na lista das plataformas prioritárias; em suma... se é assim... como o puseram (e com a omissão da PSP) espero muito e bom suporte; mas ainda não o estou a ver.
Fonte: http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/01-11-2007-6802.html
Eis algo que eu definitivamente gostava de ver, faltam Racers do género (e dos bons) na Wii. Seria até uma boa oportunidade para eles devido à falta de concorrência, digo eu.
Equipa do Time Crisis 4 fala na Wii:
Fonte: http://www.siliconera.com/2007/11/0...-is-in-the-hands-of-third-party-devs/#respond
Point Blank Wii? E porque não Time Crisis Wii?
(o Time Crisis 4 corria em hardware PS2 de arcade, apesar de ter sido agora portado para a PS3, não há qualquer problema técnico em fazê-lo correr na Wii)Entrevista com o presidente da Square-Enix, Wada Yoichi com a nikkei:
Fonte: http://ruliweb2.empas.com/ruliboard/read.htm?main=ps&table=game_ps04&page=1&left=b&num=37133
About time! agora mostrem é jogos, porque neste momento até a PSP; com o FF7CC, um KH a vir, o Dissidia, remakes do Star Ocean 1 e 2 e ports de jogos square-enix retro a dar com um pau... tem mais suporte... e nem aparece na lista das plataformas prioritárias; em suma... se é assim... como o puseram (e com a omissão da PSP) espero muito e bom suporte; mas ainda não o estou a ver.
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Master_Link
Power Member
Temos que esperar. Um jogo da square não nasce de um dia para o outro.