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blastarr
11-04-2008, 03:20
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11452

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/6086/7863largenvidiadc5dadeu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

- CPU: VIA CN ("Isaiah", com suporte para execução Out-of-Order -o Atom da Intel "regrediu" para In-Order-, SSE/SSE2/SSE3/SSSE3, 64bit, etc)
- Chipset + IGP MCP7x: 8 scalar processors baseados no core G98, DX10-ready, Blu-ray -H-264, VC-1 e MPEG-2-, DisplayPort/HDMI/DVI-I/D-Sub, SATA 3Gbps, Gigabit Ethernet, DDR2 (SO-DIMM).
- Preço do conjunto inferior a 45 dólares, em formato Nano-ITX e Pico-ITX.


Sai na primeira metade de 2009, para PC's desktop e notebooks, UMPC's e MID's low-cost (concorrente directo do Intel Atom + 945GMS).

JAFoNEXUS
11-04-2008, 11:17
Muito bom mesmo :D, então com aquele preço :eek:

Para quem quiser saber algo mais do novo isaiah:
A look at VIA's next-gen Isaiah x86 CPU architecture (http://techreport.com/articles.x/13996)
VIA Isaiah test result confirms improvements (http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1405)

lohka_86
11-04-2008, 13:59
Parece que estou a começar a ver plataformas laptop nvidia-via...

JAFoNEXUS
11-04-2008, 14:59
Parece que estou a começar a ver plataformas laptop nvidia-via...

yep, é um dos objectivos da nvidia :D EEE PC com algum poder grafico e a bom preço :D

A concorrencia para os intel atom é muito bem vinda :D

Finalmente vai ser possivel ter um mediacenter HD capable passivo e barato :drooling:

diasantonio2099
11-04-2008, 20:45
ja agora qd sai essa preciosidade?

destr0yer
12-04-2008, 02:08
Muito interessante.

venha de lá isso.

daa jeito um 2º PC, para media center e casual computing.

cL!cK
12-04-2008, 20:43
Entao e a nivel de processor power, uma máquina baseada neste sistema faria boa concorrência ao EEE?

Tou mm a ver..daqui a uns meses tou aflito pa comprar um portátil pá fac e nem os EEE cá chegaram a preços decentes nem tão pouco os seus supostos rivais dão sinal de vida em Portugal..:rolleyes:

VoRtAn_MaDgE
12-04-2008, 21:35
Hmmm car pc á maneira ;)

yumei
14-04-2008, 21:52
venha uma para estes lados ...loool

Tenebrus
15-04-2008, 16:00
Hmmm car pc á maneira ;)

Exactamente o que eu pensei. Já se sabe qual o TDP disto?

JAFoNEXUS
25-04-2008, 01:16
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2008/04/atom-vs-isaiah.jpg

You knew this day would come: Intel positioned Atom perfectly to compete with VIA's low-power offerings, and VIA is trying to stay one step ahead in the low power game with its Isaiah processor. Who will be the winner? Well, we'd say it's still a little early to call it, but German site Eee PC News did some quick and dirty benchmarks that show Isaiah on top by a decent margin. At this point the numbers are just in "ALU" and "FPU," but hopefully some real world benchmarks from some retail products can clear this up before long.

FONTE (http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/18/preliminary-benchmarks-have-vias-isaiah-besting-intels-atom/)

O Isaiah parece que tem tudo para vencer :D, pena a HP ter metido o C7 no seu novo ultra low cost ...

SUN
13-05-2008, 11:50
Eu uso uma via no meu car pc e estava a pensar em fazer o Upgrade para o intel atom, mas o ISAIAH deixou me a pensar.

JAFoNEXUS
14-05-2008, 00:34
BTW acho q a Via tinha muito a ganhar se se aliasse à nvidia de vez, e nós tb :D

blastarr
14-05-2008, 01:51
BTW acho q a Via tinha muito a ganhar se se aliasse à nvidia de vez, e nós tb :D



Nvidia CEO denies buyout of Via


Nvidia CEO Jen-Hsun Huang said he has no interest in buying out chip supplier Via Technologies, dispelling rumors--at least for now--that had been circulating back in March.
Nvidia, Via--not going to happen (for now)

Nvidia, Via--not going to happen (for now)

"They don't need our money. I don't need theirs," Huang said, referring to Via. "They're doing fine. People want to create drama," he added.

Previous reports cited a number of scenarios including Nvidia's acquisition of the entire company. Via makes processors and chipsets for x86-based computers. Via reported revenue of about US$87.5 million in the first quarter of 2008.

The company competes with Intel and Advanced Micro Devices for processor sockets inside low-cost PCs. Recently, Hewlett-Packard selected Via's C7 procesor for the HP 2231 Mini-Note PC.

Rumors were fueled some more when Nvidia said it was teaming up with Via to build a low-cost PC platform to compete with Intel. The two companies touted the design last month as "the world's most affordable Vista Premium PC" that will combine Via's upcoming Isaiah processor with an integrated Nvidia graphics chipset.

But Huang clarified why he isn't interested in buying out any general-purpose processor makers. "Our shtick is that we just focus on one thing. We said we're a visual computing technology company and we're completely focused on this."

"Wherever their processor capabilities intersect with our visual computing focus, we will support them. We support ARM, we support Power PC in the game console world, we support Hitachi SH in the automobile industry, we support Via in low-end PCs," he said.

But he did paint a scenario where alternatives may be considered. "The reason why we don't do that is because I happen to believe visual computing is still innovating very quickly. Now, if it turns out that things don't change anymore. If peanut butter and bread--neither of which are innovating anymore. Then they ought to put it together. Peanut butter and bread, mix it right into the dough."


Ao contrário da AMD, a VIA/S3 ainda se pode dar ao luxo de ter prejuízos há muitos meses consecutivos, porque na realidade é apenas uma subsidiária de uma empresa muito maior, a "Formosa Plastics Corporation".


http://www.cnet.com/8301-13924_1-9941212-64.html

Vento_Nocturno
21-05-2008, 16:49
Mais um artigo sobre o Isaiah que chegou ao meu conhecimento hoje atraves das CNET

May 15, 2008 6:15 PM PDT
End of Intel, AMD duopoly near? Via readies Isaiah chip
Posted by Brooke Crothers 2 commentsIs the end of the Intel-AMD duopoly nigh? Via Technologies is hoping this may be the case when it announces the "Isaiah" processor later this month.


Via Isaiah processor is targeted at mainstream notebooks and desktops; top: Isaiah processor; bottom: $398 15-inch Everex gBook

(Credit: Via, Wal-Mart)The company's first high-performance x86 chip will be targeted at the mainstream PC market--another first for the Taipei-based chip supplier. Via processors have historically appeared in ultrasmall mobile devices (such as the OQO), embedded computers, or thin-client computers.

"It puts us into the mainstream market for the first time," said Richard Brown, vice president, corporate marketing at Via.

Isaiah, like Via processors before it, will still hew to the lower-power line, however.

Correction: Isaiah's TDP (Thermal Design Power or power envelope) is not confirmed at this point. However, Glenn Henry, president of Centaur Technology (the Via subsidiary that designed Isaiah), said in a previous interview that Isaiah will consume more power than Intel's Atom processor but "has the same power curve" as Via's existing C7 chip.

One of the main differences between Isaiah and Atom is that Intel's chip uses a more simple "in-order execution" design compared to Isaiah's Superscalar, out-of-order design.

Because of this more sophisticated design, Isaiah may deliver higher performance than Atom, though independent benchmarking will be the final judge. But more to the point, Isaiah may be competing more with Intel's low-end Core 2 or Celeron lines than with Atom in some cases (since Isaiah will be initially targeted at mainstream notebooks and desktops).

Via subsidiary Centaur Technology designed the processor. "Centaur has been working on this for the last three years. It's between two and four times the performance of C7 (Via's current processor). So, it' very, very close to (Intel's) Core 2. Core 2 solo (single core)," Brown said.

The Via C7 processor is currently being used in a design that may herald more Isaiah-based mainstream notebooks. The $398 Everex gBook is being sold at Wal-Mart with a 15-inch screen, a 1.5GHz Via C-7M processor, 512MB of DDR2 system memory, a 60 GB hard disk drive, optical drive, Ethernet, and wireless. It uses the gOS Version 2 operating system, a Linux distribution.

"We're in full agreement with the optimized PC concept," Brown said. An idea put forward by Nvidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang, it postulates that a consumer will get better PC price-performance by adding a $50 graphics card rather than a two or three hundred dollar quad-core processor. "You can have a processor like Isaiah matched with a better graphics card," Brown said. "There's opportunity in both desktops and notebooks."

Last month, Via and Nvidia announced a platform billed as the "The World's Most Affordable Vista Premium PC," the sub-$45 processing platform will combine Via's Isaiah processor with an integrated Nvidia graphics chipset.

Originally posted at Nanotech: The Circuits Blog


link para esta noticia: http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9945568-1.html?tag=nl.e724

JAFoNEXUS
21-05-2008, 22:39
Estou mortinho por ver isto a andar, concorrencia é sempre boa :D

setekh
21-05-2008, 22:49
Estou mortinho por ver isto a andar, concorrencia é sempre boa :D
quite true!

estou especialmente curioso em relação às soluções para desktop. vão assentar apenas naquele tipo de plataformas do 1º post, ou prevê-se o lançamento de algo mais modular?

JAFoNEXUS
22-05-2008, 00:21
Com este mercado que a intel criou com o anuncio do Atom acabou por abrir a caixa de pandora :D

Até a intel ficou surpreendida com a procura.

O potencial deste tipo de cpus é tremendo :D

B3n3v3nt3
22-05-2008, 01:15
Com este mercado que a intel criou com o anuncio do Atom acabou por abrir a caixa de pandora :D

Até a intel ficou surpreendida com a procura.

O potencial deste tipo de cpus é tremendo :D

Hm? Que eu saiba a Intel é que entrou neste tipo de mercados...em que a VIA já se encontrava.

JoaoRamalho
23-05-2008, 01:08
Hm? Que eu saiba a Intel é que entrou neste tipo de mercados...em que a VIA já se encontrava.

pois, tambem penso assim

JAFoNEXUS
23-05-2008, 18:31
Hm? Que eu saiba a Intel é que entrou neste tipo de mercados...em que a VIA já se encontrava.

Sim, a Via já cá estava há muito tempo e o C7 também, mas não tinha competição neste mercado, o geode da amd é mais fraco.

Agora com o atom há uma concorrencia forte por parte da intel, a Via tem que se mexer senão acaba por perder também este mercado. Para isso a opção de utilizar um chipset nvidia foi muito bem jogado, com o isaiah a Via parece ter CPU para concorrer com a intel. Mas o tempo dirá .

mascarilha
23-05-2008, 23:46
NVIDIA to Announce Tegra

"NVIDIA to Announce Tegra: Computer-on-a-chip solution. Yup you've read right NVIDIA is cooking up a New Series and it could be a big stir for both AMD and Intel. The newly trademarked name "Tegra" seems to point towards a SOC (System-on-a-chip) solution. What we know to-date is that NVIDIA and VIA are joining hands to debut a sub US$45 platform, but it's really unclear if this is going to be named Tegra or some other new-fangled development that's been under-wraps.

Fortunately, we needn't wait long as come Computex 2008 on 3rd June 2008, NVIDIA will announce this new development of the Tegra branded family. Will it be a CPU-GPU combo chip or a new platform for the mobile computing space or a new device for handhelds or something completely unfathomed? The curtain will unveil soon enough in less than two weeks. So stay tuned as the Hardware Zone team prepares itself to set a temporary base in Taipei for all the latest developments direct from Computex."

source; http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/news/view.php?id=10752&cid=4

cumps

blastarr
06-06-2008, 17:50
"Mi Amore"...

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=1205&stc=1&d=1212740087

Não sabia que o Drew Henry gostava de beijos na careca assim a este ponto... :D


Nvidia joins VIA in celebrating Nano CPU and Mini-ITX 2.0 launch


VIA Technologies held a launch party today (June 5) to officially announce its new VIA Nano processor (Isaiah) and a new standard for small form factor motherboards, Mini-ITX 2.0. Nvidia's general manager of MCP business, Drew Henry, appeared at the show lending weight to previous reports the two companies will be teaming up on a new CPU-chipset platform in the near future.


The Mini-ITX 2.0 standard aims to set minimum specifications for future Mini-ITX boards in order to encourage makers to design platforms that are capable of meeting current market demands such as for high-definition video and gaming, said VIA.

Key features of Mini-ITX 2.0 include the requirement of a PCI Express x16 slot for expansion, and support for 2GB DDR2 memory as a minimum. Platforms also need to support at least DirectX 9.0 on their IGP and should meet the requirement for Windows Vista Capable certification. DirectX 10 and Vista Premium support should be possible via an add-in card.

Other specifications defined in the standard include: a minimum of four USB 2.0 ports, Gigabit LAN, and at least two SATA and one IDE ports. Motherboards will still measure 170×170mm as defined by the original Mini-ITX spec.

Compared to Intel's requirements for Atom platform motherboards, which some consider more a list of what makers must not include on their boards, Mini-ITX 2.0 has the advantage in allowing more than one DIMM slot and PCI Express expansion, rather than just PCI.

Although VIA made it clear it was not announcing any cooperation with Nvidia or related products at the event, sources at PC vendors have revealed that Nvidia's first VIA CPU-based chipsets will be launched in the first quarter of 2009.

The MCP79 chipset will support VIA's Nano processors and a bus speed up to 1333MHz. The built-in graphics core will support DirectX 10, the sources contend.

Both VIA and Nvidia declined to comment any further regarding their cooperation, but industry watchers believe the appearance of Henry at the launch, and comments he made about VIA's Nano CPUs, point to a clear indication of the relationship between the two companies.

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080605PD217.html

.DX.
10-06-2008, 00:28
VIA demos Crysis on Nano 1.8GHz CPU in Mini-ITX Board

Tweaktown reports from a VIA demo from Computex 2008. VIA showed Crysis running on the new VIA Nano (http://www.i4u.com/article17659.html) on a Mini-ITX board (http://www.i4u.com/article17842.html).

Quote from the report: "Now that VIA has officially announced its codenamed Isaiah processor called Nano, it can begin showing off just exactly what it is capable of doing.
On Thursday during Computex VIA held a press conference with CJ Holthaus of Centaur Technology, who demonstrated the power of this small VIA EPIA SN computing platform."
Read the full report and see a vidoe of Crysis running on the VIA Nano on Tweaktown (http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9639/via_demo_crysis_on_nano_1_8ghz_mini_itx_video/index.html).

http://www.i4u.com/article17920.html

Zero_Cool_PT
10-06-2008, 13:41
Alguém sabe quando poderemos adquirir estas preciosidades? :x2:

DJ_PAPA
05-11-2008, 03:18
Foi cancelado:

VIA Nvidia netbook platform plans suspended
Nvidia and VIA Technologies' cooperation over a platform for netbooks and Mobile Internet Devices (MIDs) was recently suspended, according to sources at VIA.

Nvidia and VIA signed a cooperation agreement in April this year which would see VIA's C7 and Nano CPUs paired with MCP79 IGP chipsets from Nvidia, according to previous reports.

Although cooperation on the platform is suspended, VIA said the two are still continuing to cooperate and will showcase co-developed desktop PC products at CES 2009.
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD206.html

gryle
05-11-2008, 08:39
Foi cancelado:

VIA Nvidia netbook platform plans suspended

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081104PD206.html

Com o track record da Via a lançar CPUs e da Nvidia a lançar chipsets, talvez lá para 2015 saia alguma coisa :004:

blastarr
05-11-2008, 16:24
Com o track record da Via a lançar CPUs e da Nvidia a lançar chipsets, talvez lá para 2015 saia alguma coisa :004:

O chipset era o mesmo MCP7A que foi lançado para as CPU's Intel desktop e mobile há alguns dias. Da parte da Nvidia não há qualquer atraso.
O problema é que a VIA está a ter imensos atrasos com o CN/Nano (as primeiras revisões estão a chegar da fábrica da Fujitsu com demasiados bugs), e isso já levou a HP a trocar essas CPU's pelos Intel Atom nos seus netbooks.
Creio que foi um erro estratégico confiar na Fujitsu, em vez de se manter na TSMC como aconteceu nos C3 e C7.

A HP era "o" cliente da VIA no mercado mainstream, e agora será muito difícil voltar atrás, não com os Atom Dual-Core e Atom "Lynncroft" já no horizonte.

JoaoRamalho
05-11-2008, 22:56
se saírem á volta dos 45dolares, um bundle desses é meu!